O's Take The Series in Boston + Previewing The Road Ahead - Ep. 14

In today's episode, the crew recaps the series victory over Boston along with their upcoming series against Toronto.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Yo yo yo, what is going on, ladies and gentlemen? Welcome back to Orioles Theory, your number one one-stop shop for all things Baltimore Orioles related. I'm your co-host and creator of O's Theory, Tyler Marbrus. And joined with me as always are my two very, very good buddies, Jake Gordon and Clay Selgen. Jake Clay, how are we doing today, fellas? Vibes high, vibes low. How are you feeling? Unmute that mic for me, Jake. Jake, you're traditionally muted. Oh vibes are always high.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Vibes are always high. Healthy breathing. Can't not be as high as we are right now. I'm thriving right now, boys. Thriving. Clay, how are you feeling?

SPEAKER_04 1:09

Life's great, bro. The Orioles just went up to Fenway, took two out of three. We're talking four days later than we did on Sunday, and uh the Orioles still haven't made us upset. So I'm ready to talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

I was a little upset yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 1:22

Yeah, but you know, alcohol can save that.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

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SPEAKER_02 2:53

At this moment in time, uh, I've been increased to probably a 6.5. Uh, you asked me that a couple weeks ago. We were at a solid two, so he is stacking together some quality starts. And may I say, boys, I think his the first game in Boston, that might have been his best start of the year. Looked very sharp, was absolutely cruising. Bats helped him out. I know, and I I know it felt good. He can just put the ball right down the middle, just put it in the zone, let him hit it. It was a beautiful start. So, I mean, confidence is starting to creep up a little bit, not gonna lie to you, but gonna need to see some more consistency. So, over the next couple of starts, ask me that same question, we'll see where we're at.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

I'm gonna say seven. I I think I think the confidence all really kind of started coming back once uh once he went to Jimmy's famous seafood and ordered a cheeseburger with ketchup and cheese only, the traditional clay train order. Uh it was at that moment I knew things were going to turn around. And like Jake said, you know, his start Monday, what's saying, Thursday? Today's or Tuesday. His start Tuesday was his best start of the year so far. You know, he built off a great performance last week. And I looking forward to Sunday versus uh Sunday versus Toronto in Toronto. It should be a great game.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Yeah, and we'll talk about that Toronto series. We're gonna end with that. But I mean, I think with Boz, it's all about confidence, right? You you you look at the makeup of you know who he is and how he pitches, and it's stuff that projects to be a top of the rotation starter, a frontline starter. And that's why Mike Eliz traded three top 11 prospects for Shane Boz, because he saw all that talent and he saw a lot of the untapped potential. And obviously, when he first started uh the season, his first like six starts, they weren't great. Now, some he gave us a good amount of length on. Like I remember he had a can't a start in Kansas City. He went seven innings, but he also gave up like 10 hits, like three earned or like four earned runs. But it's important to get a pitcher that gives you length, and that's what Boz has been so far. But it's a cherry on top when he has a quality start in those seven innings or in those six innings. That's what Boz has been doing over the past four starts now. Now, you guys said that this was his best start. I still think that his previous start against Hannah Reigns was his best start. I was at that game. That was good too. It was a great start. I think he had nine strikeouts. That was a season high. What I look when I watch Shane Boz is how deceptive can you be? If you're locating the fastball, everything's gonna play off of it, especially that knuckle curve, which I think he picked up five or of his of his six strikeouts on in this previous Boston start. But it's so deceptive. But the thing about Boz in that race start that I saw was that he was working for changeup too, to lefties to righties. And that's I think when Shane Boss can be at his best, when he overlays the fastball with the changeup. And then that way, how are you gonna be able to react to 98 if you're if you gotta pay attention to the 88 mile per hour changeup low away? And that's what Boss has really been focusing on and crafting and working on here. I can tell, I haven't talked to him, but I can tell that he's been working on it because of how sharp he's been. The confidence levels through the roof with this kid right now. He's feeling it, everyone else is feeling it. And all you can ask for is that he just goes into Toronto on what Clay, you said Sunday?

SPEAKER_04 6:14

Sunday, yeah. So he'll start Sunday at 1.35. I'm interested to see. I mean, I I don't have the stat right in front of me. I can definitely look it up, but it seems like his best start his best starts have come at night. So I obviously I don't think that means anything. But you know, I want to see, I want to see if he can do it during the day. I mean, his last two starts both came at night. I I think the thing that stuck out the most to me, I mean, besides him going seven innings Tuesday, was the fact that he was 17 for 26 with first pitch strikes. That's I mean, that's 17 to 9 ratio right there. You know, he 94 pitches, 64 strikes. He's pounding the zone. So that was something that we kind of saw earlier in the year he wasn't doing as well. And and kind of coming back to that now in his last two starts. I mean, that that's it just shows consistency wins.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

And one thing that I've noticed with Shane, too, is that you know that this guy's a flamethrower. You know that he could get up to 100 miles per hour if he needed to, but he'll come out the game and he'll throw 95, 96, he'll be controlling it. Then all of a sudden it's the fifth inning. There's a runner on second with one out, and then he's gonna blow 99 right by him. Like he saves his best velocity and his highest velocity for later in the game. I think that's very important. And we don't give a lot of credit to Drew French because at first there wasn't a whole lot of credit to be given. But over the past two and a half, two and a half weeks, you can tell that French has a lot of confidence in Boz, and Boz has a lot of confidence in French because he has the ability to locate the zone early, get ahead in the count early in the game. And then when he wants to be a loose cannon and throw 99 down the throat, he'll do that. And French believes that he can do that. Basal, Rutschman, they believe that he can do that. And now that he's confident and the confidence is building, he is doing that, and you're seeing four straight quality starts. Jake, last thing to add on boss.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Yeah, no, so I mean, just wanted to piggyback off uh what Clay said. You know, to mention his day and night splits, I did uh look them up real quick. Uh this year, he's had four day games, six night games. ERA for day games is just under 4.7, and for his six night games, it's just above 5.10. Um actually, I know he has two less starts in day games, but the batting average is significantly less in day games, uh 234 in day games and almost 290 during the night. Um, and a little a little fun fact. I mean, two of his best starts that we just mentioned, the Rays and Fenway, one night, one day. So I don't know if that's a huge effect on him personally. I think he just goes out and pitches uh and you know likes to likes to really manipulate that pitch clock as well. I've noticed he really likes to take it down to two, even one second, and then pitch it, which I think could be uh really big uh to throw off some hitters as well. So I like what I'm seeing from Shane so far. Uh hopefully he can keep up the momentum, just as the entire Orioles team.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yeah, you just gotta keep doing it. We'll talk about game two for like a split second. When Chris Bassett's on the mound, you don't have a whole lot of confidence now. He's the type of guy to give you six innings, one start, and then the start right after have a complete blow-up game, and that's kind of what it was. He also got injured. I'm hoping that, you know, it's not anything too, too serious, but if it is, I think it will open the door for someone like Trey Gibson to really be a full-time starter. Um, maybe even Dean Kramer when he returns sometime in here in uh June. But um, that game was kind of just a slop fest. Those they had runners early, they had runners in scoring position early, but they could not capitalize. You've got to capitalize when you have a guy like Chris Bassett on the map. A 38-year-old who throws 91 and 92 miles per hour, tops out at it. You've got to be able to drive and runs, especially when you're playing on the road against the AL East. And he just and the O's just simply did not do that in yesterday's game. But ultimately, you just gotta kind of hope that you know Bassett isn't out for too, too long. But if he is, I feel like the O's have enough guys uh in the farm, guys like Trey Gibson, maybe even like an Albert Suarez, we'll see. Um, someone just to make a start there for him. But no, trust me, Clay, you know who I'm leaning towards. You know that I want Trey Gibson.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

I I also think Trey Earn has has earned it so far.

SPEAKER_04 10:18

100%. And yeah, I also want to add, I mean, look, I I hope Chris Bassett's okay, but if there was one guy in this rotation to get hurt, I'm happy it's not a good thing. You don't want to say I don't want to see anybody get hurt, but you know, I mean Chris Bassett's been very inconsistent. Trey Gibson came up and and showed his stuff, you know, back at Camden Yards, got his first major league win. I mean, if it's time to see Trey Gibson, it's time. I mean, at some point, we're we're what two games under 500 now, three games under 500. Three, three, you know, at the end of the day, at some point you gotta say, if we want to be in this race, if we want to get above above the hump, you know, we gotta go with the guy. We gotta say, you know what? Yeah, we paid Chris Bassett 18 million dollars, but he ain't cutting it. We gotta go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

So sure. I don't want to talk too much about game two. Um also stinker. Why would you want to talk about it? It's a distinker, right? Also, apologies. Uh, I thought I connected my Twitter account to the live stream, and then when I was like, why isn't there anyone in the live? It's been 10 minutes, then I realized that I didn't link it. So if you guys missed it, for those that are now joining us, we talked about Shane Baz for the first half. That'll be up on the YouTube that I'm gonna confirm. And that we don't condone alcohol, and that we do not condone alcohol for drinking away bad things in life. We don't condone that, but we do condone O squared residential design and flooring. Um, but I do want to talk about the game today because that's what we're all here to talk about. A six-run first inning. If Brian Bay was on the mound, insert Shan Sharp meme. Collar Greens, Paul Grimes, uh Ray's Rib, Oxtail. It was kicking. It was Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving dinner anytime Brian Bayo's on the mound. That was put up like four or five runs on him in the first start this year. Now they just come back and put up six in his home ballpark. There were booze, it was loud.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

He got into it with the after the game.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Oh, did you talk about that? I didn't even see that.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Because they asked him, they're like, you know, do you think that you should go to the bullpen to try and reset? He's like, I'm I'm a starter, you know, F this. Like, you know, how dare you talk to me and say that I'm not a starter? I'm having a bad season.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

Yeah, by by the Orioles who are three games under 500. You've been horrible all year. Your ER ERA, my computer says a 630. Yeah, I mean, your ERA is higher than all of our GPAs combined.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

So well, I um I went on the Pesky Pole podcast on Monday. It was an office in Red Sox pod, and we were kind of talking about game three. It was like Rogers versus Bayo, two guys that can either come out and give you seven shutdy, or they could give you two and two-thirds of six run ball. And I was like, I kind of feel good about Trevor Rogers' start. His last one was a little bit more encouraging. Um, he pitches well in Fenway. Brian Bale, on the other hand, got shelled by the O's. And then guys I was on the pod with, they go, Yeah, well, you know, Brian Bale, he needs training wheels. Like he needs an opener. And when my buddy, who's a Red Sox fan, saw that Bayo didn't have an opener today, he immediately benched him on fantasy and he immediately bet the Orioles because he knows how bad Brian Bayo is without an opener. So it's kind of funny just seeing that like come to fruition here, that I was ready to attack him early. I really only started watching the game. I kind of watched the game late. Um, so I didn't see the Taylor Ward double. That could have been a home run, um, the gunner hit by pitch or the Alonzo double play ball. Everything else after that I watched. Um, and it was good, man. I mean, Kobe Mayo uh basis clearing uh double off the monster. I'm curious to see where that would have been in Camden. Is that a fly out to deep left field? Is that a home run? I'm kind of curious to see what that is. I think it probably would have been out. I think it would have been a good one. But that's a fly out, yeah. That's why I tweeted. I was like, I love this damn green monster because like Kobe Mayo had a series off of it. Like, I don't even know if his home run in game one would have been a homer if we didn't, if the monster that's an engaged man.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

Us here at Oreos Theory want to send a quick congratulations to Kobe Mayo and his fiance, now fiance, on their engagement.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Whatever she is doing and seemed to be Miss Mayo, keep doing it because I love the way that Kobe's swinging the bet.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

And and Stuke, we don't care. Just keep knowing it.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Just keep doing it. And I got Kobe Mayo here on the um segment because they do really want to talk about Kobe. Um, you can just tell that the kid is so much more confident now, like at the plate. And that's the thing with Kobe Mayo's like when he's confident, when that confidence is building, that guy can hit the ball wherever you want it to be. Um, he's gonna hit in three straight games this series. In the month of May, he had a 716 OPS, but what I'm really looking at here is him once he returned from injury, uh, which was May 27th, two for three with a uh with a double, one for two with a homer 0 for 3, 1 for 3 with a hit by pitch, uh, one for four, one for four, and then today he went obviously one for four with that um double. This is the type of Kobe Mayo that I expected. A lot of power, a guy that can with without a doubt flip a game over on its head. Um, and we're seeing that now. And it's kind of hard to take him out the lineup, especially because he's been hitting right, he's a little bit better too. But against lefties, he's a guy that you gotta play in this lineup every single day against lefties. Um, what do you guys think about Kobe Mayo right now? Where he's at? What have you noticed? Are you believing in the Mayo hype? Are you getting closer to it? Where are you guys at with Kobe?

SPEAKER_02 15:47

So for much of this season, it's really been a conversation about can Kobe Mayo translate his elite prospect abilities into big lead production. And I I truly believe that over the course of this past month, it's really coming to fruition. I mean, even over his last 15 games, he's batting 295, 13 hits, four homers, eight RBIs. And even when he's not getting on base, I mean, he's averaging, you know, 92 exit velocity, almost a 50% hard hit rate. I mean, he's barely balls up at almost 10%. I mean, these are metrics and stats that when they're not producing to you know on-the-field stats, traditional stats, dude, that's something you want out of a middle of the lineup guy. And this is really encouraging, and I'm really happy for the turnaround. And I'm really, I mean, for the kid, I mean, himself and for the team, I mean, this is someone, the player that you drafted, the player that we were like to other organizations, hey, we're not trading him. Yeah, no one can touch him. Yeah. I mean, this is the kid that we envisioned. So hopefully, and I feel like we've been saying about a lot of guys because a lot of guys are playing well right now, is hopefully they can keep up this momentum and keep it, keep it going, especially for Kobe. Because we need that.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Clay, real quick, don't want to cut you off because you do want to let you speak on Kobe, but I just want to break down his last 30 days and his last 15 days. In his last 30 days, he's 16 for 64. He's got four homers, eight RBIs, five walks, 22 strikeouts. You'd like to see that strikeout number come down. But he has a 250 batting average, 324 on base, which is honestly fine, especially when you're slugging for 69. He has a 793 OPS in his last uh 30 days. And I don't know if that includes what he did today because I'm looking at ESPN. In his last 15 days, he's 7 for 23 with six runs. Um, he has a 304 batting average, a 360 on base, a 609 slug, six or excuse me, 969 OPS. This is the Kobe mail that we expected. The one thing though that I will say about Kobe is him against lefties this year has been dynamite. Uh he's 15 for 50 with four doubles, five home runs, 11 RBIs, four walks, and only 14 strikeouts. He has a 300 batting average, a 352 on base percentage, a 680 slug. That's good for a 1032 OPS against lefties. If Kobe Mayo can't hit righties, I'm okay with him just being a lefty masher if he can actually do it. Because if you have those numbers against a lefty anytime there's one on the on the bump, even if it's uh uh uh you bring you bring Kobe Mayo in as a pinch hitter against the lefty, if that's the type of guy that Kobe Mayo is against lefties, bring it on to me, and I'm okay with that. What you got, Clay?

SPEAKER_04 18:44

Yeah, I mean, you you took the words right out of my mouth. I had the breakdown out. I mean, is it in 152 with the with a 234 on base percentage against righties of OPS of 456? I at the end of the day, if Kobe Mayo is that guy that we just say, you know what, you're gonna play three days a week against lefties, you're not gonna see it bad bad against righties unless you know you're in the lineup against a lefty and we somehow are you know in a situation where keep you going. But I'm okay with him being a platoon guy. I mean, I don't know who that guy is at third base that you're gonna play, you know, whether it's Jackson Holiday, whether it's Jeremiah Jackson, Blaze Alexander, whoever, but there's no way you could take Kobe Mayo out of the lineup right now when you're facing a lefty. I don't care if it's Terek Scruble. I mean, he's hit he's head, he's hitting the lights out of the ball. Yeah, at the end of the day, you take guys like that. It's Colton Kowser. Colton Kowser can't hit lefties. Colton Kowser can't really hit anybody, but he's in hitting righties well the last you know three weeks. You got to keep letting it ride. You got to let this guy ride. Tyler O'Neal, you brought him in to mash lefties, he hasn't matched anyone, so you got to keep him on the bench. But you know, if Kobe Mayo ends up not being that top prospect, play 150 game guy for us, but he ends up being play 85 games a year, 90 games a year starting and hit 20 home runs against lefties, you take that every time.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

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SPEAKER_04 20:35

Yeah, I went about was what year is it 26? I went four years ago.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:41

Went for two days. It was really fun. It was it was a really fun city. I think the thing that stuck out to me was it was very clean. I thought the view from that hotel was really, really cool. Sure. Um, but I actually went before the renovations, so I'm actually interested to see at some point, probably next year, maybe the year after going back up there and seeing the renovations. But it's a very fun baseball town, very fun place to see a game. And I the Orioles find a lot of luck there, especially Ryan Mountcastle for one. Yeah, you know, so it sucks not having him this series, but you know, it'll it'll be exciting. I I'm excited to break this down.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Well, you want to know who we do have? We got Brandon Young. Brandon Young, the East. No, he's not but we got BY. He was absolutely shoving recently. You could say some of its luck because he's some of its good pitching, but BY has just been a good starter this year. He has what, I think the second lowest DRA on the team. He's got a quality start, three out of his last five starts. The last one coming here against Toronto, and he's gonna be on the bump for game one against Treya Savage. Uh that game's at 707 tomorrow on Friday. You got any faith that BY can out duel Trey once again?

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Brandon Young seems to keep finding a way to prove everybody wrong. And I think at this point we've kind of I've bought into the Brandon Young hype, but. But you know, it's kind of like you talk about with rookies and guys like younger guys are like, you know, maybe they get hot and then something, you know, the league figures them out and they got to try and readjust. The league hasn't figured them out yet. I mean, they figured them out last year and then a couple of starts this year, but he's been pretty on point. I mean, we're gonna break down this series, but there's two games so far that both teams have their you know pitching probables up. We get Trey Young or uh not Trey Young, Trey is Savage versus Brandon Young on Friday, and then Sunday we get Shane Boss versus Kevin Gosman. I mean, that's two premier matchups, in my opinion, in the American League East. And I'm really excited. And you got Kyle Braddish starting Saturday. I remember last week they had a uh they had a random guy start against Kyle Braddish due to uh just injuries, stuff like that. So it's looking like it's gonna be the same thing Saturday. They don't have a starter named. Hopefully we can win Saturday, and then all of a sudden you got to just win one of one of Friday and Sunday. I don't think Trey Savage walked seven guys again.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

Right.

SPEAKER_04 22:55

But you know, I I think you find something in that. You gotta try and get him out of the game early. You know they're trying to control his innings, so it's getting into their pen and trying to be as explosive as we can be early. I mean, that's gonna be the key is jump on him.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

And with Toronto, too. I mean, they're actually up three to one in the eighth right now against the Braves, but they uh lost the first two. So they now have gone two straight series without a series win. It's very important for them to get a series win here against Baltimore, especially after they went up 2-0 in the series against us last week, and we came back and won the final two games. So both of these teams are gonna be super, super hungry. They're gonna be very hungry, they're gonna be tied going into the game if Toronto holds on to this 3-1 lead that they have in the eighth. Both teams are gonna be hungry, and both teams are gonna have their best pitchers out there, at least in my opinion. Young Bradish and Baez versus Savage and Gossman. I'm assuming maybe in game two, I don't know. They may have to go with like an opener again and go to a bullpen game. I'm not really sure as to who Toronto had uh throwing in this Atlanta series, but you got to feel better about game one now that you saw Brandon Young have success against this Blue Jays lineup only a week ago. Now, yeah, you could feel good, but at the same time, you also have to, you know, add the fact that Toronto saw him last week. They're gonna be able to watch film and understand how Brandon Young likes to throw. And that's the one thing that I hate sometimes about baseball is that it's really hard for a pitcher to dominate the same team twice with it over a span of like a week or two. Because it's like football too. It's like when the Ravens play the Steelers in week 16 and then in week 18, it's like it kind of sucks because you saw them so recently, you know exactly the type of team that they are. Whereas here in baseball, it's like you know the type of pitcher that they are, and you only have a few days until you get to see them again. So it'll definitely be a challenge for Young. I think this Blue Jays lineup is still very good. Um, some of them are banged up, but I think at some point in June, the Blue Jays do have to get hot. Vladimir Guerrero, his power does have to come back. He's on pace for below 10 home runs right now, I think. So I feel like at some point you're gonna start to see this Blue Jays team really turn turn it up a notch. That's what the Orioles are doing now, so you can't discredit them either. But in game one, you gotta feel somewhat confident that Brandon Young can give you something. You just gotta hope that you can get to Trey Ya Savage and give Brandon Young enough cushion to uh work with. But we'll talk about game two here. Uh Kyle Braddish, the game starts at 307. Blue Jays, they don't have a pitcher on the mound yet. Um, like Clay discussed. We got to feel great about this game, right, fellas. Kyle Bradish, the way that he's spinning the baseball right now, he looks like one of the best pitchers in the American League, if not the whole entire uh MLB. And this is a guy that that I don't know what his stats are in Toronto, but Bradish is a guy that when he's on, he's on. He's one of the most unhittable players or pitchers in the sport of baseball. And I think it's very crucial for Baltimore to not get complacent, especially if they somehow win game one. You gotta back up Braddish. You have an opportunity to win the series with Braddish on the mound in game two if you just win game one. And when you got Bradish on the mound in uh in uh um game two, you gotta feel really good about that. So I feel good about game two. It all depends on who Toronto throws out and how they look in game one, but I feel good about the matchup with uh Bradish, who's been looking fantastic recently. Your ass is quick thoughts on uh game two with Braddish on the mound.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Yeah, uh I mean Bradish his first two starts in Toronto were atrocious. Um, but over his last four starts, he has a 1.11 ERA there. So um he's been shoving, but I mean career, eight appearances against Toronto, very has struggled mightily against Toronto in his career, honestly. So it's really the question is can Bradish keep up that momentum and that command and that pitch sequence? And I don't have any reason to believe he cannot, um, the way the this this team's moving right now. So um I don't know about you guys, but I'm kind of going, I'm I'm at this point right now where I I feel like every every game we play is winnable right now, no matter who the starter is, um, which is scary to me because man, this team loves to push me away and then jerk me right back in, and now I'm sucked back in. So um, yeah, I I expect two out of three. I I'm big on just win the series. That's why, you know, I I loved what happened today. Uh you shake off yesterday, a bad loss, you come back, you kick some ass. Now you move on, you fly to Toronto on a little hot streak. Let's go. I mean, that's what baseball is. Just just like like Tyler, like we always say, just keep on stacking. Next day, next day, just keep on getting better. And right now the Orioles are getting better. What?

SPEAKER_04 27:42

You know what the key to winning this series is, Tyler?

SPEAKER_02 27:44

What's that? Winning games. Debt on base. Debt on base.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

Get on base. At the end of the day, we're we're sitting here talking. I don't know how to remove this. That's not oh, there it is. Okay. Um thank you. Uh, like I said, Trade Savage walked seven guys last week and we scored one run against them. That can't happen. The seven walks need to happen. I mean, even if it's two or three walks, but just getting on base, you gotta be able to get guys on base and get guys around. In the last two weeks, the Orioles have done it. Just like Jake said, they they they tear us down, they throw us away, and then all of a sudden they they they climb back, they climb back, and the hardest part is it's like watching Rocky. You know, I mean, we're we're talking about this is the hardest stretch of the year. All of a sudden we just took three straight series, we're going into Toronto with all the confidence in the world, huh?

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Well, I guess they took three, they haven't lost the series in four.

SPEAKER_04 28:35

Well, oh yeah, I mean, I guess I forgot that we blew that game against Toronto.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

So yeah, we that that's one that could very well come back and haunt this team. But if we just keep on playing the way that they have been playing, they're not even gonna have to worry about it.

SPEAKER_04 28:48

You look at it, I mean, yeah, that game could come back and haunt us, but we're gonna have an identical record with Toronto going into tomorrow. They blew the next day just as bad, so it's almost a wash in a sense, but you just gotta keep throwing, like we said, keep throwing it away, keep trying to find a way to win. All of a sudden, you get take two out of three here. You're in the hardest stretch of the year, and you know, you if you win this series, you win three straight series and or two straight series, and you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

But home run it's three to two Bray or three to two Ray or Jays now.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

So Jay's all right, here we go.

SPEAKER_04 29:21

Come back, come back, walk off Homer in ballot.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

Um, also I I kind of just thought about maybe Simeon Woods Richardson to get the start against Kyle Braddish. They just acquired him yesterday, I think. Stinks. Um, he stinks, but maybe they just see upside. It was kind of similar to like them trading for Louis Varland at the deadline last year, and now he's their closer. Maybe they see some values. That's nasty though. Bro, nasty.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

You want to see a blast from the past. I just clicked on the uh the Braves Blue Jays box score. Sandy Leon was catching, and Jorge Mateo pinch hit, and Austin wins replaced him. That is 2021 Orioles magic.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Talk about stacking wins. Stacking wins. Um, but yeah, we'll we'll we'll talk about game three here real quick and then wrap it up. Boz vs. Gaussman. Uh Gossman's no slouch, and and and the Orioles they have a pretty hard time against Gaussman. 3-3-6 ERA this year at 35 years old. Talk about Unk, but I mean, he's just been as solid of a pitcher as you could expect.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Talk about a workhorse, right? Like as soon as he leaves Baltimore.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Just absolutely yeah, you there they're there's still space out there.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Bad word to say about him. Not a bad word to say about him.

SPEAKER_04 30:37

He said a couple things about us in the past couple years, but Kevin Gosman's the first jersey I ever bought on my own, like an Oriol jersey I bought on my own. I love Gosman to death. Yeah. So it's cool to see he he was he failed for so long, Cincinnati, Atlanta, after you know, especially after he left Baltimore, and then all of a sudden went to the Giants, he got a hundred million dollar contract. I mean, that that's a success story right there. Unfortunately, he's gonna need to give up seven runs on Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Yeah, unfortunately, he's gonna have to out duel the hottest pitcher in baseball and shame by the way.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Hey, I tell you what, ESPN. I'm sorry to cut you off, Ty, but I'm looking at ESPN right now. We'll talk, you know, we'll talk about the road ahead, talk about Seattle. Got three really, really hard games against Seattle coming up. They they apparently have lined up Emerson Hancock, Logan Gilbert, George Kirby.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Yeah, no, it's not easy, especially with us having uh Bassett, Rogers Young. Maybe you take Bassett and you put in Gibson Rogers Young. And if Rogers pitches the way that he did today, now it wasn't stellar, but it was good. It's it's it's what we needed him to do. He gave up only one earned run, uh, but you're fine with that. Five and two thirds. Hopefully you can start to see Trevor Rogers not even just like come back down to earth because he already has, but you can't get much worse than what you're being at uh or than what you're pitching at now. And today was a today's start was an indicator that he's still a good pitcher. He just had to work through a lot of kinks, and I think now you're gonna start to see Rogers really start to propel himself and be more of a more of a positive member of this Orioles rotation than a um liability, right? But Shane Boz, though, will be starting in game three against Kevin Gossman. Uh that's a 135 game, like you said earlier, Clay. So maybe Boz can twirl it in the sun a little bit. I'm sure the Roger Center roof will be open. But I would say some favorable pitching matchups for the O's. It depends what version of Boz and Young we get. I think Bradish, he's as solid, he's as solid as you can get. You're gonna get at least six out of him. Depends on whether it's one run ball or uh scoreless ball or three or four runs. But you'll get length from Bradish. You're gonna need the bullpen to be stout. None of this blowing leads, the offense is gonna have to, you know, really, really show up early against your Savage and against Gossman because you can't go the whole game without scoring runs or else you're not gonna win. Baseball 101. So we need this offense to really get going here, continue to build upon this momentum that they've had for the past, what, two and a half, two and a half weeks now, it seems like. So you gotta feel better going into this series and really any series yet. I felt good about the Boston series. I was a little skeptical because of the pitching matchups, but he still felt good about it. We attacked Connorly early, uh very, very well. That kind of surprised me too. So this team, they're full of surprises and they're building some momentum, they're looking good, they're playing for each other. The bullpen's locking it down, the starting pitching's locking it down, the O's are scoring early, situational too. Uh runner on first, no out, steal a base, uh, sack bunt yem the third, fly out, bring him home. I saw that on Monday, and it was beautiful. That's the type of baseball that the O's have gotta continue to play, and if they do, they will win games and they will be a playoff team. That's all I got. You guys got anything to add?

SPEAKER_04 34:06

You you you sounded you made me laugh. You sounded like John Harbaugh for a minute there when uh talking about Trevor Rogers because you said it wasn't pretty, but it was us, and I've heard that for about it like that. You kind of sounded like that.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Well, I can't stop yawning. Oh yeah. Well, sorry, John Harbaugh. He's he's been ingrained in my brain for the past what 19 years when he got hired, 18, 2008. Oh, 2008.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

It wasn't pretty, but it was us.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

Yeah, 18 years.

SPEAKER_04 34:35

Yeah, well, but I mean Trevor Rogers outside the seventh inning, his last not today, but the start before that. He shoved, he shoved, he shoved the last two starts outside of that one inning. So I got faith. I got hope. I got faith. You know, this is this is the grit and grind. You got three in Toronto, four against Seattle, three against San Diego, three in Seattle, three, three against the Dodgers, three against LA.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

I mean, it's I mean, why don't you just keep going and just name the whole rest of the schedule?

SPEAKER_04 35:04

I mean, I might as well. I mean, the month of June is month of June is an exciting month for the Orioles. If if they come out of this stretch above 500, as Tyler said they would in April, and I doubted them. I'm bought.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

I'm buyers, buyers, buyers, buyers, buyers.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

Buyers remorse, Michael Walker, Logan Webb, you name it.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

Bring it on.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

But yeah, I think what about Manny Machado?

SPEAKER_01 35:26

No. Oh. No. But you gotta feel better about about the O's now than we did a week ago, two weeks ago, a month ago, two months ago. They've just been they've been just improving all throughout the season. And you just gotta hope that they don't have one of those cold streaks where they go three and where they go three and seven in their last ten, because then that sets us back in another four games. If you get to 500, you gotta stay above it. And I think this team is approaching that, Mark. And all you can do, Jake, is what?

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Keep on stacking, keep on stacking.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

That's gonna wrap things up for today's episode of O's Theory. Once again, thank you guys for tuning in. Clay's got somewhere to be. Clay, care to share with the people what you got going on?

SPEAKER_04 36:14

We're going to the old rodeo. The old rodeo. Gonna put a rope on my hand and a bull under me, and we're gonna go a little ride. A little ride. Potentially. We'll see where it lands. We'll see where it lands. The Orioles won. So, no, cheers to a fun night. And uh Orioles.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

Anyhow, I'll love it.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

Anything can happen when you're drinking alcohol.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

Well, we don't condone it.

SPEAKER_04 36:45

God damn Tyler, let me hit it. Our good friends at O Square Designs, just like the Orioles build, somewhat winning teams. O Square Design builds great winning kitchens. Check them out. O Square Design, thank you, Tyler. Take us away.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Wow, look at that. You're uh preparing for my departure when I go to Europe here on Sunday, and you're gonna be hosting the show.

SPEAKER_04 37:07

Uh yes, I am, folks.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

All right, well, you're doing good. You know, we are in for one for sure. Uh yeah, like um, don't you think we are going to Greece? We are going to Greece. Uh me and the fam go into Greece. I'm Greek, if you guys don't know. Both my parents are Greek, my grandparents are Greek. So we're going back to the motherland. Uh Jake Gorn just left. I don't know what happened there. Jake's trying to beat you there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jake's trying to beat me there. But I will be leaving Sunday. I'll be getting back on the 22nd of June. So I will not be on the airwaves for the next two, two and a half-ish weeks, but I'll still try to be editing content, tweeting, watching games when I can. Hopefully, we get some day games here, maybe some later games on the West Coast. Um, like the Seattle series, I can maybe watch if I wake up at 6 a.m. in the morning. Um, but yeah, so Clay and Jake, they're they're gonna be on the pod uh for the next couple of weeks while I'm out vacationing, catching a tan. Jake is back. What happened there, kid?

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Dude, like my computer like went black on both screens. It was the wildest thing. I thought the power was out, but I'm like, mm, lights are still on, so that can't be.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

I thought you were trying to beat me to Greece.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

That's what Clay said.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

I thought you were trying to get this bag, make me solo dolo on Sunday, huh?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Greece. Nah, Greece can't handle me. Jake, uh, I've never been said be a story. I uh I've only been uh overseas, honestly, one time.

SPEAKER_04 38:40

The only country he's been to is uh Missouri.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

No, Africa went on a little safari, yeah, yeah, for my high school graduation.

SPEAKER_04 38:50

Oh what country did you go to?

SPEAKER_02 38:51

I thought 1992. No, 2016.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

All right, that was a decade ago.

SPEAKER_02 38:59

Your 10-year high school anniversaries this year. You know what's funny? I've been thinking about that. Bub, no one's reached out to me about no anniversary like reunion. I don't know. But uh having one, dude.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

It's okay, Jake. We will host a reunion for for your 10-year mark of graduating uh high school. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 39:20

I think it's 28 years old. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

All right, we gotta wrap, we gotta wrap this puppy up. Like I said, Jake and Clay will be on here twice next week, twice the week after, talking about the upcoming series. The Mariners, the Padres, the Mariners, the Dodgers, and then hopefully I'll be back for the Tyler.

SPEAKER_04 39:43

You better hope while you're in Greece they play good. Because if we play Toronto, Seattle, San Diego, Seattle, and get our asses kicked, me and Jake are gonna be on here for an hour, really, really upset.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Oh god. Oh god. Well, I don't want to know what that's gonna look like, but I trust you guys. I'm sure the viewers trust you. If you guys join live, thank you once again for joining us live. If you guys are listening on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Podcast, we appreciate you. Make sure you hit that download and follow button. You guys can listen to Orioles Theory for the whopping price of free 99. Yes, that's right. Free 99 on all platforms. Make sure to follow us on all socials at O's Theory on TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram. I had the liberty or um the honor of interviewing some players at Single A Frederick uh this evening. I ought to interview Boston Bateman, Victor Figueroa, Twine Palmer, and JT Quinn had a blast there. Those will be up on YouTube shortly. If you guys want to see some of the interview clips, make sure to follow us on all the socials. Uh that's gonna wrap things up for today's episode. Once again, thank you guys for tuning in for Tyler for Tyler Barbarous, Clay Seljan, Jake Oren.

SPEAKER_04 40:54

I do want to add, guys, we will be going live Sunday on Claytrain TV on Twitter if you're tuning in. Tyler will be in Greece. It probably will not be on his channel.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

You could go live on my account if you want. I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 41:07

Is it okay? It's in there, cool.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

Yeah, I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

I control Tyler's Twitter now, guys.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

They're gonna be like, wow, Tyler pulling a few pounds. Tyler Tyler got fat as shit. Anyways, yeah, make sure you guys go uh check that out when Jake and Clay go live Sunday night. Uh but yeah, like I was saying, Tyler Barbaras, Clay Selch and Jake Orin. Thank you guys for the love and support.

SPEAKER_04 41:27

Peace out, goes goes.